WoW: Cataclysm

[Dedalus]

E' previsto qualcosa di interessante per stasera?

Adesso stanno facendo un open Q&A su Diablo III, dopo ci sarà un panel su WoW: Dungeons & Raid

[GeeGeeOH]

Systems Panel:

Rated Battlegrounds
This section discussed changes being made to Battlegrounds. We realize that players want a bit more out of the Battlegrounds, or don’t necessarily want to actively participate in Arenas to acquire some of the best gear in the game. We’re changing this by providing an alternate method to acquiring Arena rating. We’ve introduced rated Battlegrounds, which will allow players to acquire rating for very powerful gear without setting foot into an Arena, so each player can enjoy whichever PvP activity he or she prefers.

We plan to include featured weekly Battlegrounds for players to enjoy; coupled with the changes made, this will help keeps the gameplay changing from week to week.

The way the new rated Battlegrounds work is pretty straightforward. The more games you win, the higher the rating you acquire; conversely, the more games you lose, the lower your rating will be. We’re looking at setting a cap of six or more battles per week. We want players to enjoy the ability to acquire rating through Battlegrounds, but it shouldn’t become the main source of rating gains.

In order to participate in rated Battlegrounds, players will be required to join battles as full groups. However these groups do not need to be committed teams as in the Arena system; rather, the group simply needs to have the required amount of players for whichever Battleground they’re entering. As an example, one would need to join the queue as a group for Warsong Gulch with any nine additional players to qualify for a rating.

Guild Advancement
We continued with the presentation discussing exciting new features that will provide guilds with avenues to further advance, both on an individual basis and as a whole that culminates into a more immersive level of guild development. With these upcoming guild advancement features, guilds will be able to acquire talents and provide guild members with leveling benefits, as well as acquire guild achievements, guild professions, and other cool features.

Guild Leveling and Talents
We’ve introduced a new guild feature that will provide options for players to earn guild experience in a variety of ways. Players can earn guild experience through leveling, reputation ranks, boss kills, Battleground and Arena wins, and profession ranks. The top twenty earners from the guild per day will contribute to the guild experience total.
With every acquired level, guilds will receive talent points that they can then spend towards their guild talent tree, which affects all guild members in the guild.

Additionally, guild experience is converted into guild currency that can be used to purchase a wide variety of rewards, such as guild profession plans and reagents, vanity items, and talent respecs.

Guild Professions
Guilds that use guild currency to purchase profession plans will be able to share any purchased plan with the rest of the guild via a vendor and skill trainer. Guilds are also able to create guild heirlooms; these items bind to the guild so that anyone in the guild will be able to acquire them. Just like the normal heirloom items, guild heirloom items will also scale with level and will support all armor and weapons.

Guild members will also be able to take advantage of being able to create guild-specific versions of items that require fewer or different reagents. The new reagents are purchased from guild vendors via guild currency, and there will be support for all professions.


Looking for Guild
With the Looking for Guild feature, we’re making it easier for players to find a guild. We’re also looking to provide guild leaders more options to make it easier to recruit new members. The new tool will provide filters based on various requirements and will have a simple and easy-to-use interface.

Guild Achievements
Players can earn achievements as a guild, with each requiring a minimum ratio of guild members to complete. We’ve also introduced new achievements that guilds can partake in. One example is becoming Grand Master in all professions.

Features
Guilds will receive a special guild news-feed that will show them updates on happenings within the guild such as achievements, boss kills, etc. Guilds will also have access to profession info for their members and more. In addition to these features, guilds will also be able to acquire a percentage of gold looted on boss kills that will go directly to the guild bank. Additionally, guilds will be able to invite other guilds to events.

Mastery
This segment of the panel discussed a new and exciting feature called Mastery. With this feature, we want to make class talent trees simple throughout, but we also want to make them a lot more fun. We feel that while talent trees are pretty cool, they’re becoming larger and more complicated. We see this by the talents available, as many talents try to perform three different things and passive bonuses compete against fun or utility talents.

So while we will add some new talents for Cataclysm, we also want to prune passive and mandatory talents so that you have more points available for fun or utility talents. Our goal is to have talent trees that are simpler, less cookie-cutter and more fun. Under the new plan, you’ll get passive bonuses just for spending points in the appropriate tree.

Passive bonuses are things that increase stats such as damage, healing, and tanking, as well as stat-like attributes such as haste or crit. We really want to give something unique for your spec -- and the Mastery stat incorporates this.

An example of a passive bonus for Assassination rogues would be increased poison damage the more points they spend in Assassination. Likewise, a rogue specialized in Subtlety will receive an energy cost bonus, Beastmaster hunters would receive bonuses to their pet’s damage output, and Marksmanship hunters would receive focus regeneration bonuses, as well. These are just some examples of how passive bonuses bolster each spec of every class.

Path of the Titans
Path of the Titans is another great new feature we covered that encompasses rewarding progression at max level. This new feature implements a third new type of glyph called “Ancient Glyph,” and as you can see, it is themed after the titans. These special glyphs are not associated with the Inscription tradeskill, and are also not specific to any class.

You’re able to unlock a path and progress within that path as you continuously engage in different aspects of the game. As you advance, you will be able to unlock special glyph sockets for your character. You can also respec your path at any time, in case you decide to change your path.
You earn these ancient glyphs by using the new Archaeology secondary profession to recover and trade in titan artifacts. Each path will have 2-3 choices per rank, and again, you can respec if you decide to go down another path.

• Path of Aman’Thul, the High Father
  
• Path of Eonar, the Lifebinder
  
• Path of Norgannon, the Dreamweaver
  
• Path of Khaz’Goroth, the Shaper
  
• Path of Aggramar, the Avenger
  
• Path of Golganneth, the Thunderer

You can earn progress down any of these paths by doing things such as questing, raiding, PvP, trade skills, etc., with a possible weekly cap for maximum progress. Over time, you’ll be able to unlock new ancient glyphs that will greatly benefit your character.

This new system will be accessible to all players at max level. Players will eventually be able to reach new ranks for ancient glyphs, encouraging them to further develop their characters. There is also a possibility that we will introduce whole new paths in future content patches.

That’s it for this year’s Systems panel. See you next BlizzCon!

http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread....181&pageNo=1#0

[Dedalus]

Stanno parlando dell'istanza ad Icecrown: al secondo piano c'è un combattimento aereo tra il mezzo dell'orda e quello dell'alleanza dove bisogna abbordare il mezzo avversario e "affondarlo"!

LOL

E Torna NEFARIAN

[GeeGeeOH]

Anche Nefarian torna in Cataclysm.


Per IC: http://www.***************.it/forum/...=206818&page=3

[Chiwaz]

Tutti i cambiamenti mi sembrano utili ed interessanti, soprattutto la semplificazione delle Stat. Vedremo poi come funziona sul campo.

Riguardo allo sconvolgimento del mondo, beh, trovo che sia una mossa azzardata ma estremamente corretta. Un cataclisma è un cataclisma, ed è corretto che cambi il mondo per sempre.
Ogni mondo cambia, e mi fa sorridere e trovare emozionante il fatto di poter dire ad un giocatore niubbo: "vedi? quando ho iniziato io i Barren erano un'unica soleggiata distesa, e Desolace era un deserto inospitale. E forse ora non riesci ad imaginartelo, ma Ashenvale era un'intricata foresta".

E' una delle possibilità migliori e più potenti che un MMORPG possa dare, mi stupisce che l'abbiano sfruttata solo ora.

[Dedalus]

New feature: Cross Server LFG!

[Ashero]

Dungeon da 5 con gente di altri server

[GeeGeeOH]

Cross Server LFG.

Inizialmente solo per i dungeon 5man, forse i raid in futuro.

Reward per chi fa i leader.

Prima di Cataclysm, patch 3.3

[H4kk4i]

dopo onixia anche nefarian?
no che mi dispiacia(sono due boss che veramente mi sono piaciuti)ma dovro ridare i gold a quelli di stormwind, gli ho dato qualcosa spacciandola per la loro testa


si sa qualcosa di piu o è stato detto giusto cosi?

[Dedalus]

E' stato detto giusto così (o almeno, io nello stream non l'ho sentito).

[GeeGeeOH]

C'è però distinzione tra Ragnaros/Nefarian ed Onyxia:
Onyxia è la stessa instance/fight ripresa e aggiustata a lvl 80 e non ci sono piani per farlo per altri boss/raid.
Gli altri sono nuove instance/fight.

[Ashero]

Spero che modifichino almeno la fase uno di wandate e autoattack.

[Malaky]

Pure Nefarian mo?

[GeeGeeOH]

Spero che modifichino almeno la fase uno di wandate e autoattack.

Quello era perchè ai tempi non c'erano indicazioni sul threat...

C'è il topic apposito comunque: The Brood Mother Returns - Onyxia revamp

[Dedalus]

Tristezza: uno al Blizzcon, durante il collegamento con l'inviata che gira negli stand, ha proposto alla sua ragazza di sposarlo.

[GeeGeeOH]

Raids and Dungeons:

The first part of this panel was an inside look at how dungeons are created in World of Warcraft. The first step to making any dungeon is thinking of an epic idea. We go through a list of questions to form the idea of this dungeon: Where is this place? Who lives here? What will the player do? And why is this dungeon epic?

The next step is to create a 2D layout of the dungeon that shows how players will flow through the dungeon, where the encounters will be, and any specific points of interest.

We then begin the process of blocking out the dungeon and creating a 3D structure following the layout. This version is playable in the game. We check the scale of the dungeon many times at this point to ensure it gives the proper feeling and atmosphere for players going through it.

In the final stages, we work on interactive objects like doors, elevators, and destructible objects. Through this whole process we work very closely with our art team to ensure everything looks great.

The next phase is where we create encounters. It always starts off with a brainstorm of ideas, so everything we can think of is a possibility. During this brainstorm we also try to identify any new tech that we can use in the encounters as well as new art. It is very important that we provide variety from one encounter to another and really determine what will be fun for players to experience.

To bring these ideas to life we use a propriety tool called “Wowedit.” Yes, we really went all-out with the clever and original names for our tools. We use this tool for creature placement, spell/ability creation, and any scripting that needs to be done for an encounter, such as phases where different things are happening.

After that, it’s playtesting time! The design team always plays the encounters first, as we will often require a lot of iterations before we’re satisfied with them. It then moves on to testing by our quality assurance department and eventually on our Public Test Realms. During testing, we listen very closely to all the feedback that comes in; something may sound fun on paper but turn out differently when playing.

We are committed to the quality of our work and know our players have high expectations for everything we create. To fulfill this we try to not only create great epic dungeons but always aim to make each one better than those that have come before.


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The second part of the panel went on to preview several of the new 5-player dungeons that will be released in Cataclysm or in a future content patch for Wrath of the Lich King.

The first one was Abyssal Maw. This dungeon is one of the two new 5-player dungeons that are located in the Sunken City of Vashjir. This dungeon will give players a non-linear experience located on the ocean floor. We have also made some great graphical improvements in our water effects that will be featured prominently here.

The next dungeon we saw was the first of two 5-player dungeons that will be located in the lost deserts of Uldum. We are focusing on making this epic Titan dungeon into a non-linear experience as well, and players will once again encounter the ever-adventurous dwarf, Brann Bronzebeard.

The panelists also went into details on a new wing that is being developed in the old favorite, Blackrock Spire. It will be an entirely new dungeon located in Blackrock Mountain, and gives us a chance to reinvent a classic area. Players will be able to explore this and figure out why the Twilight’s Hammer is here and whether or not there really was only one Beast.

After that, the panel went on to talk about raid dungeons, the first being Icecrown Citadel, which will be released in patch 3.3. This is the home of the Lich King and his Scourge army. The waypoints used in Ulduar received a lot of positive feedback, so we plan to use those again in this dungeon. We are currently planning to implement 12 epic encounters, including battles against the ultimate Frost Wyrm, Sindragosa, and the Lich King himself! This dungeon will also include a new 5-player dungeon with 8 bosses spread across three separate wings.

The next raid dungeon is called Blackwing Depths. This will be an entirely new raid based on the original and classic favorite, Blackwing Lair. Unlike Naxxramas, this dungeon will include brand-new art, items, and creatures. A possible appearance (with updates) of some old friends is possible too…

The developers then went on to show us the new World of Warcraft: Cataclysm raid dungeon called The Firelands. This is a 10- and 25-player raid dungeon in the elemental plane of fire, and is an exterior raid zone like Ahn’Qiraj 20 or the Caverns of Time Battle of Mount Hyjal. This plane is the home of our old friend Ragnaros, the Lord of Fire. Here players will be able to fight him again, but this time he will be at his full strength.

To wrap up this panel, we talked about the five-year anniversary event, Onyxia! She is receiving several updates including updated encounter mechanics and new loot. There was a definite assurance to everybody that there will be more deep breath randomization than ever before!

That’s it for this year’s Raid and Dungeon panel. See you next BlizzCon!

http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread....353&pageNo=1#0

[Headlong]

e come sospettavo niente RvR
alla fine il gioco di base non viene cambiato per niente, "solo" (si fa per dire) un rifacimento, ma la regola del "cresci il pg fino al'80 (ora 85) e poi fai istance a morire" non cambia per nulla...peccato

[Dedalus]

e come sospettavo niente RvR
alla fine il gioco di base non viene cambiato per niente, "solo" (si fa per dire) un rifacimento, ma la regola del "cresci il pg fino al'80 (ora 85) e poi fai istance a morire" non cambia per nulla...peccato

Cioè, veramente ti aspettavi che l'endgame passase dal PvE al PvP?

[MIK0]

Cioè, veramente ti aspettavi che l'endgame passase dal PvE al PvP?

Tra l'altro la cosa che rovina il gioco è il pvp quindi...

[Dedalus]

Tra l'altro la cosa che rovina il gioco è il pvp quindi...

Diciamo piuttosto che non sono riusciti ad implementare un PvP tale da tenere incollati al gioco anche i giocatori interessati al PvP. D'altra parte si è visto anche ieri: quando hanno cominciato a parlare di PvP nessuno li "seguiva" nel discorso ^^'''

[Headlong]

Cioè, veramente ti aspettavi che l'endgame passase dal PvE al PvP?

visto che

1) Warcraft è un universo nato come RTS (alias scontro tra eserciti)

2) il PvE è ormai stato viscerato in tutto e per tutto

3) nella stessa storia che si evolve si vede zone conquistate dall'Orda e forse anche dall'Alleanza


Non mi sembrava azzardato sperare nella creazione di server RvR


Oggettivamente questo WoW 2 cosi come è riuscirà a far trattenere i vecchi player per un altro annetto, ma non credo che riuscirà a trattenerli per un tempo maggiore....

[Headlong]

Diciamo piuttosto che non sono riusciti ad implementare un PvP tale da tenere incollati al gioco anche i giocatori interessati al PvP. D'altra parte si è visto anche ieri: quando hanno cominciato a parlare di PvP nessuno li "seguiva" nel discorso ^^'''

non è questo, è che la Blizzard riesce a tenere incollati i suoi fan grazie alla logica degli item "epici" (che poi avendoli tutti, non sono più "epici"), quindi alla fine il PvP viene spesso visto come un male necessario per ottennere il set PvP, dato che spesso (leggendo anche qui su questo forum) ci sono giocatori che giocano i bg e le arene "per perdere" e farmare velocemente i badge che servono per il tanto agognato "epico".
Insomma ciò che li tiene incollati al PvE giocoforza diventa il "male" per il PvP

[MIK0]

visto che

1) Warcraft è un universo nato come RTS (alias scontro tra eserciti)

2) il PvE è ormai stato viscerato in tutto e per tutto

3) nella stessa storia che si evolve si vede zone conquistate dall'Orda e forse anche dall'Alleanza


Non mi sembrava azzardato sperare nella creazione di server RvR


Oggettivamente questo WoW 2 cosi come è riuscirà a far trattenere i vecchi player per un altro annetto, ma non credo che riuscirà a trattenerli per un tempo maggiore....

Non è WoW2. Inoltre un revamp totale da zero non possono farlo così alla svelta. Credo che le migliorie saranno apportate nel tempo. Fare un WoW 2 non credo convenga, meglio portare la vecchia utenza pian piano verso qualcosa di nuovo.

Diciamo piuttosto che non sono riusciti ad implementare un PvP tale da tenere incollati al gioco anche i giocatori interessati al PvP. D'altra parte si è visto anche ieri: quando hanno cominciato a parlare di PvP nessuno li "seguiva" nel discorso ^^'''

Scusa ma wow mica è stato rovinato martoriato e loredumbeddownato a causa del fatto che la maggior parte dell'utenza gioca per fare pvp e quindi le modifiche vanno quasi tutte in quel senso?

[Headlong]

Non è WoW2. Inoltre un revamp totale da zero non possono farlo così alla svelta. Credo che le migliorie saranno apportate nel tempo. Fare un WoW 2 non credo convenga, meglio portare la vecchia utenza pian piano verso qualcosa di nuovo.



Scusa ma wow mica è stato rovinato martoriato e loredumbeddownato a causa del fatto che la maggior parte dell'utenza gioca per fare pvp e quindi le modifiche vanno quasi tutte in quel senso?

miko l'RvR fu fatto (e con risultati tutt'altro che orribili) anche su server privati, non mi venire a dire che il rifare da capo un gioco sia più semplice del trasformare una città/cittadina da una fazione all'altra dopo la conquista (alias sostituzione degli NPC e qualche aspetto grafico come bandiera e/o monumenti)....

non ci pigliamo per il ****...

[MIK0]

miko l'RvR fu fatto (e con risultati tutt'altro che orribili) anche su server privati, non mi venire a dire che il rifare da capo un gioco sia più semplice del trasformare una città/cittadina da una fazione all'altra dopo la conquista (alias sostituzione degli NPC e qualche aspetto grafico come bandiera e/o monumenti)....

non ci pigliamo per il ****...

Non mi riferivo a quelle modifiche, ma in generale a ringiovanire il gioco per farlo durare più di un anno riprendendo quello che dicevi tu.
Parlando di RvR invece, personalmente non ne vedo l'utilità ma nemmeno problemi ad introdurlo eventualmente.