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Discussione: La calda estate NBA, magari un po' meno calda della scorsa ma sempre calda

  1. #226
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    Predefinito Re: La calda estate NBA, magari un po' meno calda della scorsa ma sempre calda

    S&T a 3 per Hibbert, Ellis e DJ... sembra molto plausibile.
    Hibbert non è male, guadagnerebbero (un po') in difesa e perderebbero (molto) a rimbalzo e forse qualcosina in attacco.
    Tutto sommato con l'aggiunta di Lance e PP i Clippers sarebbero allo stesso livello dell'anno scorso con un po' di depth in più.

    Però ora mi rendo conto che Hibbert e Lance nella stessa squadra potrebbe essere un problema. Non s'è ancora capito chi ha avuto problemi con chi ad Indiana però la partenza di Lance che era RFA sembrava abbastanza chiara come segnale... se i Clippers non prendono Hibbert potrebbe essere proprio questa la causa.

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    Predefinito Re: La calda estate NBA, magari un po' meno calda della scorsa ma sempre calda

    Epperò perché Dallas dovrebbe fare un favore ai Clippers?

    Riporto i tweet di Pincus

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    Clippers don't realistically have the means to trade for Roy Hibbert unless they're sending out some combination of Lance, Redick, Crawford
    03/07/15 21:58


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    There's no trade exception the Mavs can help the Clippers generate that's enough for Hibbert, because DeAndre's raise is >120%
    03/07/15 21:58



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    Now if the Clippers can somehow leverage this DJ thing into a 3-team deal to get Hibbert, but good luck
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    The issue - why do the Mavericks do anything to help the Clippers salvage this? Sure they can but they get what for it?
    03/07/15 22:00



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    Does Mark Cuban need $3.4 mil in cash from the Clippers? How can Clippers incentivize trade exception or multi-team trade for DJ? Good luck
    03/07/15 22:16
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    Predefinito Re: La calda estate NBA, magari un po' meno calda della scorsa ma sempre calda

    I Clippers sono nei guai allora (e la cosa non mi dispiace ci certo ).
    Attualmente hanno 66,3 milioni di salari, il cap è a 63 e la soglia per la luxury tax a 76,8.
    Credo che abbiano la MLE che sarebbero circa 6 milioni.

    JaVale McGee?
    Kosta Koufos?
    Rimangono poche opzioni.

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    Predefinito Re: La calda estate NBA, magari un po' meno calda della scorsa ma sempre calda

    Potrebbero provare a scambiare per Koufos (che comunque non è da più di 25' a partita) e magari usare più quintetti small con PP 4 e Blake 5. Rischiosetto...
    Qua SBNation http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/7/3...rs-are-screwed
    Ultima modifica di Vitor; 04-07-15 alle 13:35:53

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    Ah non hanno neanche la MLE perché ne hanno usata più di metà per Pierce
    Praticamente possono offrire 3 milioni.

    Dai c'è Miroslav Raduljca free agent

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    Predefinito Re: La calda estate NBA, magari un po' meno calda della scorsa ma sempre calda

    Che pare sia vicino ai Kings, giusto per renderli ancora più hipster.

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    Predefinito Re: La calda estate NBA, magari un po' meno calda della scorsa ma sempre calda

    Davvero?
    Erede di Divac, eletto da Divac in persona

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    Predefinito Re: La calda estate NBA, magari un po' meno calda della scorsa ma sempre calda

    doc gm

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    Predefinito Re: La calda estate NBA, magari un po' meno calda della scorsa ma sempre calda

    terribile, un altro sarebbe già stato cacciato a calci in culo

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    Predefinito Re: La calda estate NBA, magari un po' meno calda della scorsa ma sempre calda

    Nel link che hai postato prima c'è il rimando a un altro articolo riguardante le pick tradate da Doc Rivers.

    In sintesi:
    For the price of four first-round picks and five second-round picks, the Clippers have received ... the right for Rivers to coach the team, two years of Doc's son and C.J. Wilcox. That's why they've had such a tough time building out the roster around CP3, Blake and DeAndre
    Non credo serva aggiungere altro.
    Doc è un bravo allenatore, ma deve capire che come GM non è proprio portato

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    L'unica scelta sensata.

    Ciao Phoenix
    Vuoi un David Lee per riempire tutto quel cap space per caso?

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    L'unica scelta sensata.

    Ciao Phoenix
    Vuoi un David Lee per riempire tutto quel cap space per caso?
    Voglio la finale di conference coi warriors

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    Predefinito Re: La calda estate NBA, magari un po' meno calda della scorsa ma sempre calda

    Gli Spurs fanno paura
    Hibbert ai Lakers
    E O'Quinn ai Knicks.

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    Per quel che posso ricordare da quando seguo l'NBA (primi anni 90 ) è la prima volta che San Antonio si porta a casa un FA di grido

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    Predefinito Re: La calda estate NBA, magari un po' meno calda della scorsa ma sempre calda

    Gli spurs


    però ok,hanno sostituito Duncan però Gino e Tony come faranno?

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    Predefinito Re: La calda estate NBA, magari un po' meno calda della scorsa ma sempre calda

    Ma infatti non sono sicurissimo che Aldridge risolva tutti i loro problemi per la prossima stagione
    Hanno perso Splitter, Beli e Baynes. Ok, hanno ancora tempo per sistemare tutto (West?), ma al momento hanno perso un po' di profondità, che era la loro forza. Duncan sarebbe obbligato a giocare da centro in difesa, se è vero che Aldridge non vuole saperne, e farlo per una stagione intera diventerebbe tosto anche lui a questa età.
    Se Parker è quello dell'anno scorso e Gino è in annata no, diventa difficilino arrivare fino in fondo.

    Però con questa mossa, e con quel contratto (ragionevolissimo in vista dell'esplosione dei salari), si sono messi in una posizione invidiabile per andare avanti

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    Predefinito Re: La calda estate NBA, magari un po' meno calda della scorsa ma sempre calda

    Nel frattempo sembra che Koufos abbia scelto i Kings.
    Buonissima presa imho (33mln in 4 anni), sembra che i Kings alla fine vogliano giocarsi le loro carte per questa stagione.

    Questo però vuol dire che i Clippers, senza Hibbert e senza Koufos sono davvero in una brutta situazione.

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    Mah, alla fine qualcuno arriverà sicuramente. E sono abbastanza sicuro che Timmy sia disposto a farsi una ventina di minuti da centro. Inoltre le Finals hanno dimostrato che se l'accoppiamento è giusto puoi tranquillamente giocare small, quindi basta un corpo che si faccia 20 minuti in regular season.


    Koufos ai Kings per 33/4, bella firma.

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    I Clippers stanno puntando forte su JaVale McGee che mi sembra l'unica soluzione sensata.
    E' giocatore abbastanza simile a Jordan come caratteristiche quindi dovrebbe integrarsi bene.

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    Si chiaro che la free angency è ancora lunga e può arrivare chiunque, però di centri in grado di farsi 20 minuti a partita senza fare danni e magari abbastanza intelligenti da giocare nel sistema Spurs non è che ne siano rimasti tantissimi. Nene è freeagent? Non mi ricordo
    Se Gino dovesse ritirarsi avrebbero anche un bel buchino nella rotazione degli esterni (anche se a questo punto dubito fortemente che si ritiri).

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    P.S. Temo che Hibbert a Los Angeles verrà insultato tantissimo, e la cosa mi dispiace perchè mi sta simpatico (e dopo un anno e mezzo così così è diventato quasi sottovalutato imho)
    Buona presa per LA comunque, anche se a questo punto non ho chiaro che cosa farà Indiana coi lunghi, visto che anche West è in partenza.

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    Si chiaro che la free angency è ancora lunga e può arrivare chiunque, però di centri in grado di farsi 20 minuti a partita senza fare danni e magari abbastanza intelligenti da giocare nel sistema Spurs non è che ne siano rimasti tantissimi. Nene è freeagent? Non mi ricordo
    Se Gino dovesse ritirarsi avrebbero anche un bel buchino nella rotazione degli esterni (anche se a questo punto dubito fortemente che si ritiri).
    Nene non è FA ma Washington sta tentando di venderlo.

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    spurs

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    spurs
    Ma stai zitto che tifavi LeBron

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    Ma stai zitto che tifavi LeBron
    No, ho sempre preferito San Antonio per Tim e Popovic Non tifavo per Lebron, la finale quest'anno mi era indifferente e speravo in una bella serie.

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