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  1. #51
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    secondo me Horford è superiore a Wright

    comunque il cinese non è affatto male, ha delle belle mani, corre come un'ala piccola... solo che è troppo smilzo
    in una squadra tipo Kings potrebbe fare bene.
    Ultima modifica di Vitorbaia; 24-06-07 alle 11:27:37

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    Chi è meglio tra Oden e Durant?



    The three defining debates of 2007:

    1. Did Tony Soprano die?
    2. Jessica Biel or Scarlett Johansson?
    3. Greg Oden or Kevin Durant?

    Only David Chase can settle the first one. Only Justin Timberlake can settle the second. But the third one? That's why I'm here. With Portland on the clock, let's break this baby down once and for all.


    NAME
    To be a superstar, your name needs to resonate like a superstar's. "Shawn Bradley" sounds like someone dying to get dunked on. "Nikoloz Tskitishvili" sounds like a tropical disease. "Ricky Davis" sounds like someone who would shoot at the wrong basket just so he could grab the rebound and fill in a triple-double. But "Greg Oden" and "Kevin Durant"? Not to be too Jack Horner, but those are some great names. I'm giving Durant the nod because his name would fit the lead character in any Omar Epps sports movie from 1993 to 2005.
    EDGE: Durant


    UNINTENTIONAL COMEDY
    Oden dominates here because everyone on the planet, and even on some other planets, has already made the "How old is the guy?" joke. It's this decade's "Why did the characters on Gilligan's Island bring so many suitcases on a three-hour tour?" or "Does O.J. really expect to find the killers on a golf course?"
    BIG EDGE: Oden
    INTENTIONAL COMEDY
    Maybe he's not as playful as Shaq, but Oden has been impressively glib over the past few weeks. He's the kind of guy who greets a room of reporters with, "What a fine-looking group of gentlemen," and he good-naturedly remembers the time a fan taunted him by asking, "Hey, what was World War II like?" He's one of the five funniest guys in the NBA, and he hasn't played a game yet. It's a stark contrast to Durant, who still comes off as uncomfortable around reporters. Then again, he's only 18, and Oden is between 29 and 45.
    BIG EDGE: Oden
    OFFENSIVE REPERTOIRE
    Oden has four moves: lefty jump hook, righty jump hook, fallaway J, dunk. Period. Durant has those and seven others: Kevin McHale's up-and-under; a running righty scoop; a crossover in which he slithers left, extends his arms and shoots that scooper; a peculiar one in which he lurches right, absorbs contact, then leans into the defender as he takes a line-drive jumper ("And one!"); a stop-and-pop to rival Mike Miller's finest; an unblockable catch-and-release jumper off picks; and a falling-out-of-bounds fadeaway from the Hakeem Olajuwon collection. He's also a gifted passer. Aside from that, he could use some work.
    BIG EDGE: Durant
    DEFENSIVE REPERTOIRE
    Oden will be a superior rebounder and shotblocker on par with the likes of Dikembe Mutombo, Alonzo Mourning, the Georgetown-era Patrick Ewing and the Teen Wolf wolf(il film con Michael J Fox ). He's a game-changer. Durant can't compare, obviously, but he does grab his share of boards (he was fourth in the nation last season) and protects the rim surprisingly well for someone who is skinnier than Kate Bosworth.
    BIG EDGE: Oden
    UNDERRATED TRAIT
    For Oden, it's world-class athletic ability that ranks with Hakeem's, David Robinson's and that of every other guard trapped in a center's body. For Durant, it's his decisionmaking -- not the decisions themselves but how quickly he makes them. He never hesitates, not even for a split second, which is why he'll be a better NBA player sooner than people think. Hard to choose here.
    EDGE: Even

    LEADERSHIP
    Oden leads by example, but Durant leads with the kind of passion that makes it impossible to believe he was a freshman last winter. Too bad he played for a Texas team that didn't run plays, didn't care about making stops and was coached by a guy who plays checkers when everyone else plays chess.
    EDGE: Durant

    IMPRESSION MADE AT NBA WORKOUTS
    After gutting out the season with a bum wrist, Oden, now healed, blew away everyone at the pseudo combines, moving some to throw around the word "freak." (I love that word. Who can forget Chad Ford's describing Rajon Rondo's hands as "freakish" so often last year that I expected Rondo to show up at the draft dressed like Freddy Krueger?) Now we hear Durant couldn't bench 185, fueling predictions that he'll drop from the top two. C'mon, do you think Bird or Magic could have lifted that weight out of college? If this is your reason for passing on a potential 40-point scorer, God help you.
    EDGE: Oden
    COMPARISON TO NBA PLAYER
    Worst-case scenario, Oden is the next Zo, averaging a 20/10, defending the rim, spearheading some 50-win seasons and, we can only hope, starting a brawl that leads to a Van Gundy brother hanging on his leg. Best case, he's a cross between Tim Duncan and Hakeem, an über-athletic big who can wreck foes in a variety of ways. Most plausible scenario, he's Ewing: a perennial All-Star who is not quite good enough to win a title by himself.

    I see Durant's worst case as a lankier, more benign Glenn Robinson. But I can't picture his best case or most plausible scenario, because there has never been anyone like him before. A 6'9" shooting guard with a 7'5" wingspan? And he's still growing? I see pieces of different players -- KG's body, Bob McAdoo's scoring, MJ's competitiveness, T-Mac's ability to attack the rim with either hand, Hakeem's fallaway, C-Webb's passing. But add it up and you get an original. Durant is the first iPod, or the plane the Wright brothers built.
    EDGE: DURANT
    NICKNAMES
    Thankfully, there will be no T-Mac-ing either guy; not even Linda Cohn would be okay with G-Ode or K-Dur. Still, I don't see Oden ending up with a better alternative. He's trapped in that vaguely bland Sampras/Duncan/Ewing zone, where it makes the most sense to call him Greg. There is Robert Parish's nickname, The Chief, because Oden is similarly stoic and regal, but I'm morally opposed to recycled nicknames. I believe LaDainian Tomlinson should do time for stealing LT from LT. Plus, others might be morally opposed on PC grounds. So The Chief is out, and Greg it is.

    Meanwhile, despite some recent KD momentum -- color me lukewarm -- Durant is a natural for a supercool alias. Not something forced like King James, either. I nominate Plastic Man, after the cartoon superhero who always had a smoking-hot girlfriend (for obvious reasons). We never should have wasted such a great nickname on Stacey Augmon. I'm calling a mulligan.
    EDGE: Durant

    INTERNET PRESENCE
    With a bunch of homemade highlight reels, Durant is already a YouTube icon. My favorite is "Kevin Durant Apocalypse." Oden's videos, on the other hand, have titles like "Greg Oden" and "Oden Highlights." Then again, he's been blogging about his postcollege life at yardbarker.com, while Durant hasn't yet taken the Internet plunge. So until someone settles this with a leaked sex tape, I'm calling it a draw.
    EDGE: Even

    MARKETABILITY
    Nobody likes to root for big guys -- hell, it took us 14 years and a feud with Kobe to warm to Shaq. But someone with Durant's boyish good looks and fan-friendly skills? Piece of cake. If sponsors were smart, they'd build a campaign around both these guys (along the lines of Bird and MJ for McDonald's, or Barkley and Wade for T-Mobile). If they're fighting for the last bite of a Whopper six months from now, blame me.
    EDGE: Durant

    COMPETITIVENESS
    Like Michael Myers, Oden never changes expression, flips out or overreacts; only his heavy breathing gives him away. But would guys be afraid of letting him down the way teammates once were of Bird, Magic, Isiah and MJ? Probably not. Because unlike Michael Myers, Oden is no killer. He admits as much, confessing to wanting to be a dentist and settling on hoops only because of his size. But Durant is wired like Bird and the rest. He's cold-blooded, living to silence hostile crowds. You get the feeling that Oden's life will revolve around many different things over the next 15 years; Durant's will be all about basketball.
    EDGE: Durant

    TREMENDOUS UPSIDE POTENTIAL
    What Hubie Brown has created and I have shortened (TUP), Oden has rendered irrelevant. Everyone already expects him to be a franchise center. But Durant ... I mean, when a guy is described as an MJ/KG/T-Mac hybrid and it seems reasonable, that says something. We have a fair idea where Oden's career is headed; we have no clue where Durant's will take him. The ceiling has been lifted. It's what makes Durant more seductive than Oden -- NBA teams love to think about what players could do instead of what they will do. Durant is the ultimate TUP guy.
    EDGE: Durant

    TREMENDOUS DOWNSIDE POTENTIAL
    Okay, so I just came up with this concept three seconds ago. Here's the idea: You'd bet your life that, barring injury, Oden will be a valuable center on a perennial contender. Would you bet it all on Durant's becoming a valuable forward on a perennial contender? I would, but you just hesitated for a split second. So ...
    SLIGHT EDGE: Oden
    Face it: No GM has the testicular fortitude to pass up a potential superstar center, not even for someone as potentially game-changing as Durant. If you want to compete from now until 2020, take Oden. Simple. But as soon as the Blazers pass on Durant, he will instantly be more dangerous. Because from that moment on, he'll be playing with a chip on his shoulder. As Karl Malone, Gilbert Arenas, Carlos Boozer and others have taught us, a draft slight is a scary thing: It's a contract-year push that never ends. Each season, you want to stick it to everyone who didn't believe in you all over again. (Note: The term for this phenomenon is "anti-Darkoism.") So the Sonics might one day look as if they were the ones who caught the break on May 22. I just don't know.

    But you know who might? David Chase. Let's ask him what he thinks. David? Um ... David?

    [Fade to black. Long hold on blank screen. Roll closing credits.]

    Ah, comunque io voto Jessica Biel

  3. #53
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    io sono per Scarlett

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    preferisco le more: meglio JEssica


    ma non ho capito l'arrivo su Timberlake: non mi vorrete dire che quel "coso" negli ultimi tempi ha fatto lo sporcaccione con tutte e due?



    tornando IT: non vedo l'utilità di certi discorsi: a parità di potenziale si drafta SEMPRE il centro

  5. #55
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    sì, e in pochissimo tempo

    tornando IT: sembra che gli Hawks abbiano promesso la 11 a Law. L'agente nega, ma intanto è stato annullato il workout previsto con gli Hornets (che scelgono alla 12)

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    Jessica FTW

    K-Dur (potrebbe essere un buon nick per una Lega Nord versione iuesei )

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    io emulo il Justin e me le faccio tutte e due!


    solo i pezzenti sono costretti a scegliere

  8. #58
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    ehi, ehi, non mi toccare Al
    Vabbè oh... magari sbaglio io, basta vedere i miei pronostici sui PO di quest'anno (Houston).

    P.S. Scarlett

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    eccallà conley alla 4, ma perchè?

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    Ma il mock di playit che da il beli alla 14 (clips)?

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    eccallà conley alla 4, ma perchè?
    l'ho messo anche io alla 4

    beh secondo me è semplice.
    Conley è il migliore piccolo di quelli presenti al draft, e se i Grizzlies riescono a trattenere Gasol gli serve un play di buon livello, visto che sono in una division dove abbiamo Parker, Paul, Harris...

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    http://www.nba.com/draft2007/profile...haneLasme.html

    sto ragazzo pare abbia fatto dei bei workout, solo che forse non sarà scelto. Anche perchè ha già 25 anni. Ma è un bel giocatorino, leggete la sua bio... possibile che ce lo si trovi in Europa.

  14. #64
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    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...ckdraft/070627

    spettacolare il mock draft incrociato tra Simmons e Ford

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    han scritto troppo


    lo leggo domani a lavorare

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...ckdraft/070627

    spettacolare il mock draft incrociato tra Simmons e Ford
    Bill: Hey, NBA TV is showing the 1995 Draft right now ... Milwaukee just took Gary Trent. I predict this ends badly.

    Chad, it's a good thing you didn't have a column in 1995 -- George Zidek and Dragan Tarlac would have gone in the top 10.

    Chad: And you would've been driving the Ed O'Bannon and Shawn Respert wagon.
    spettacolare, davvero spettacolare

    La parte sui Celtics

    e Simmons su Yi
    Bill: I love Yi Jianlian -- he doesn't have the balls to work out against anyone, he lied about his age and he'll only accept four possible NBA destinations. This guy sounds like a real prize.

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    spettacolare, davvero spettacolare

    La parte sui Celtics

    e Simmons su Yi


    That's perfect -- the Bobcats are the only NBA franchise that operates like a WNBA franchise
    idoli

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    http://www.nba.com/draft2007/profile...Belinelli.html

    Bella la pronuncia, pure con l'accento sbagliato

    Bellìnelli

  19. #69
    Vitor
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    si inizia

    1) Portland Trail Blazers - Greg Oden
    2) Seattle Sonics - Kevin Durant
    3) Atlanta Hawks - Al Horford
    4) Memphis Grizzlies - Mike Conley
    5) Boston Celtics - Jeff Green
    6) Milwaukee Bucks - Yi Jianlan
    7) Minnesota Timberwolves - Corey Brewer
    8 ) Charlotte Bobcats - Brandan Wright
    9) Chicago Bulls - Joakim Noah
    10) Sacramento Kings - Spencer Hawes
    11) Atlanta Hawks - Acie Law
    12) Philadelphia 76ers - Thaddeus Young
    13) New Orleans Hornets - Julian Wright
    14) Los Angeles Clippers - Al Thornton
    15) Detroit Pistons - Rodney Stuckey
    16) Washington Wizards - Nick Young
    17) New Jersey Nets - Sean Williams
    18 ) Golden State Warriors - Marco Belinelli
    19) Los Angeles Lakers - Javaris Crittenton
    20) Miami Heat - Jason Smith
    21) Philadelphia 76ers - Daequan Cook
    22) Charlotte Bobcats -

    Ultima modifica di Vitorbaia; 29-06-07 alle 02:41:30

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    allen a boston per la 5, west e sczerbiak?
    trade saltata per il momento.
    Ultima modifica di Vitorbaia; 29-06-07 alle 00:59:21

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    allen a boston per la 5, west e sczerbiak?
    yes, e con la 5 dovrebbero prendere green

    in più mega trade con la 54(di orlando) che va a houston per soldi......

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    ma che se ne fa Seattle di due ali?

  23. #73
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    e i Bucks formano una bella coppia di mozzarelloni

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    noi ci prendiamo hawes, qualcuno che sappia qualcosa su di lui?
    adesso vado a dormire, perchè 10 scelte in un ora non sono un ritmo sopportabile.....

    notte vitor

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    se va bene è il nuovo Brad Miller. Belle mani.

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