Mage

[GeeGeeOH]

The buffs here are designed primarily to make Arcane more competitive with Fire / Frostfire builds in PvE. Because they could end up buffing Arcane in PvP, we are prepared to adjust the damage of say Arcane Barrage if needed, but we want to see these in action on the PTR first.

Mage PvE damage in general is something we are keeping a close eye on. With the recent hunter changes, many of which were nerfs to PvE damage, we want to make sure mages now don’t break away from the pack of damage-dealing specs.

1) Evocation – cooldown reduced to 4 min.
2) Arcane Flows – now also reduces the cooldown of Evocation by an additional 1 / 2 min.
3) Arcane Blast – overhauled. Will now increase the damage of your next Arcane spell by 15%. However using Arcane Blast itself does not consume the charge, but instead increases the mana of your next Arcane Blast, up to a maximum of 3 stacks (and a 45% buff). You can alternate Blast and Barrage to keep buffing Barrage, or you can build Blast up higher for a heavy mana cost.
4) Torment the Weak – now works with Arcane Blast and does bonus damage to targets afflicted by any kind of slowing effect (e.g. Thunder Clap).
5) Elemental Precision – renamed Precision and now works on all spells.
6) Improved Blizzard – snaring effect reduced to 20/40/50%.

EDIT: We recently made the Arcane Blast stack 15/30/45% to your next Arcane spell.

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I'll try to explain this better. It sounds more confusing than it is. Here is the tooltip:

Blasts the target with energy, dealing X Arcane damage. Each time you cast Arcane Blast, the damage of all Arcane spells is increased by 15% and mana cost of Arcane Blast is increased by 200%. Effect stacks up to 3 times and lasts 10 sec or until any Arcane damage spell except Arcane Blast is cast.

Consider a few scenarios:

Arcane Blast -> Arcane Barrage
Next Arcane Barrage is 15% more damage.

Arcane Blast -> Arcane Missiles
Each missile in the next volley is 15% more damage.

Arcane Blast -> Arcane Blast
The second Blast does 15% more damage, but costs 3x normal cost.

Arcane Blast -> Arcane Blast -> Arcane Blast
The third Blast does 30% more damage, but costs 5x normal cost.

Arcane Blast -> Arcane Blast -> Arcane Blast -> Arcane Blast
The fourth Blast does 45% more damage, but costs 7x normal cost.

Arcane Blast -> Arcane Blast -> Arcane Blast -> Arcane Blast -> Arcane Blast
Any Blast beyond the fourth is still at 45% more damage, and still costs 7x. I wouldn't do this.

Arcane Blast -> Arcane Blast -> Arcane Blast -> Arcane Barrage
The Barrage is 45% more damage, but at the normal cost and consumes the charge so you are back to normal damage after that.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...93389857&sid=1

[Kurtz]

Beh mica male!

[giannifedex]

Ragazzi mi serve una build per mage lv 57; fino a settembre giocavo con una arcane+fire e mi trovavo bene, ma adesso mi tenta la full arcane: che dite è troppo presto? Se si, mi date una build che vada bene per livellare (chi ha detto full frost?).
Grassie

[GeeGeeOH]

1. Arcane Barrage can no longer clip arcane missles for the arcane blast buff (figured this would be fixed soon).
2. Arcane Blast Glyph is apparently only 3% per stack instead of 5%.
3. Arcane Blast Glyph bonus damage is no longer applied to arcane missiles.

1. This change was by design. While it might have been a fun test of skill, the fact is that Arcane is probably too powerful in PvE and PvP and we didn't want to make matters worse with this little trick.
2. This change was also by design. As many players have pointed out, it was just too good.
3. This is a bug likely caused by the previous two changes. Such is the risk of making changes quickly. We can hotfix this bug out though.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...eNo=3&sid=1#40

[Styx]

Gran bel video di Mage PvP

http://warcraftmovies.com/stream.php...f41b0df9798fb2

[Lilyth]

Gran bel video di Mage PvP

http://warcraftmovies.com/stream.php?id=100461&stream=1&h=39b9af3ac2848b22f9 f41b0df9798fb2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csi4BT3CCK8

[Kurtz]

ahhaha il video del mago

[Chiccu]

A giudicare da dove si trova questo thread (3° pagina) e dal fatto che sono l'unico mago che partecipa ai raid (almeno quelli da 25) in gilda, mi sembra di capire che questa classe non gode di tanta popolarità ultimamente
In ogni caso vorrei sapere come si orientano gli altri maghi pve per massimizzare il loro dps, cioè vorrei che scriveste se puntate di più su spell power, critico o haste in funzione della spec.
Via alle telefon... ehm ai post

[Lilyth]

Non raido più da TBC, comunque la 'bibbia' è sempre stata Elitist Jerks

Ctrl+c/Crtl+v

Spell hit rating is the best stat you can get, by a large margin. All spell casts use a 2 roll system, which means they must hit before they can crit or partial resist. Additionally, only 26.2 hit rating is required to add 1% hit chance with spells. Because of this, spell hit rating is better than any other stat. The base chance for any spell to resist, before talents, is 83% against a boss level mob (+3 levels). Any talent that describes itself as "reducing the opponents chance to resist" increases your chance to hit. Beyond that, gear can be used to improve your hit chance to a maximum of 100%. Once you reach the 100% hit mark, further hit rating is completely useless and you are considered "capped". With rare exceptions, gearing below the hit cap will almost assuredly result in a loss of potential dps.

The following is a list of all mage stats in order of effectiveness (for fire spec):

spell hit rating (to cap) > spell damage > spell crit rating > spell haste rating > intellect > spell penetration

Arcane mages follow a slightly different scale:

spell hit rating (to cap) > spell damage > spell haste > spell crit rating > intellect > spell penetration

Haste is now of questionable value because mana is much tighter than it was before 3.0. Every stat increases dpm except for spell haste.

Spell penetration is of almost no value at all, it's primarily a pvp stat. Spell crit rating tends to come prepackaged on a lot of gear, but is generally not a desirable stat because it takes a monstrous 45.9 points of it to give a 1% increase to crit rate. In all cases, check the gear against a spreadsheet or other theorycrafting tool to see how effective it is, as varying stat values can often make the differences between gear exceedingly difficult to eyeball.

[Chiccu]

Non raido più da TBC, comunque la 'bibbia' è sempre stata Elitist Jerks

Ctrl+c/Crtl+v

Spell hit rating is the best stat you can get, by a large margin. All spell casts use a 2 roll system, which means they must hit before they can crit or partial resist. Additionally, only 26.2 hit rating is required to add 1% hit chance with spells. Because of this, spell hit rating is better than any other stat. The base chance for any spell to resist, before talents, is 83% against a boss level mob (+3 levels). Any talent that describes itself as "reducing the opponents chance to resist" increases your chance to hit. Beyond that, gear can be used to improve your hit chance to a maximum of 100%. Once you reach the 100% hit mark, further hit rating is completely useless and you are considered "capped". With rare exceptions, gearing below the hit cap will almost assuredly result in a loss of potential dps.

The following is a list of all mage stats in order of effectiveness (for fire spec):

spell hit rating (to cap) > spell damage > spell crit rating > spell haste rating > intellect > spell penetration

Arcane mages follow a slightly different scale:

spell hit rating (to cap) > spell damage > spell haste > spell crit rating > intellect > spell penetration

Haste is now of questionable value because mana is much tighter than it was before 3.0. Every stat increases dpm except for spell haste.

Spell penetration is of almost no value at all, it's primarily a pvp stat. Spell crit rating tends to come prepackaged on a lot of gear, but is generally not a desirable stat because it takes a monstrous 45.9 points of it to give a 1% increase to crit rate. In all cases, check the gear against a spreadsheet or other theorycrafting tool to see how effective it is, as varying stat values can often make the differences between gear exceedingly difficult to eyeball.

Gioco il mago da settembre 2006, queste cose le so, per fortuna.
Io volevo sapere come si muovono gli altri maghi che giocano attualmente.

[GeeGeeOH]

Gioco il mago da settembre 2006, queste cose le so, per fortuna.
Io volevo sapere come si muovono gli altri maghi che giocano attualmente.

Intendi sapere se anche gli altri maghi fanno quello che "dovrebbero" fare o se preferiscono mettere stats in modo "fantasioso"?

[Chiccu]

Allora mi spiego meglio: io ho speccato frostfire/pyro spam e tra meta gemma e bonus 4 pezzi del t7 ho l'8% di danno in più sui critici quindi punto molto sul critico sacrificando magari spell damage e haste come si può vedere dalla firma, penso.

Voi seguite i canoni e quindi tutto spell damage e basta oppure ci sono punti di vista più personali?

[Lilyth]

Partendo dal presupposto che la matematica non è un'opinione, sacrificare spelldmg (supponendo che tu abbia cappato hit rating) x spell crit rating è in linea teorica sbagliato. Viene da se che gli oggetti non hanno solo 2 stat, quindi la valutazione è un pelo più ampia. Per le gemme Runed Scarlet Ruby tutta la vita (ad esempio mettere un Potent Monarch Topaz in uno slot rosso è una cavolata visto che parlavi di critici)

[falko76]

Ciao a tutti i maghetti!
Sono due mesi che gioco saltuariamente e mi chiedevo se la 0/53/18 FrostFire spec ha subito variazioni di sorta.

Come vedete una spec completamente fire per un gioco in solitaria tipo questa : http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/mage/talents.html?tal=00000000000000000000000000000023552323123233310531 223213510000000000000000000000000000 ?


Ho avuto grande difficoltà a crearla ... visto che dovevo mettere 71 talenti in 73 posti disponibili...

[Lilyth]

Boh, non ha molto senso mettere tutti i talenti in fire, ti precludi bonus del ramo frost a frostfire bolt.
Personalmente da quando ho abbandonato i raid e gioco casual mi sono innamorato del ramo arcano . Non ho il controllo e la survu... suavbrl..... insomma quella cosa li di un mago frost, ma è molto dinamica, ottimo burst e con un discreto contollo (e negli occasionali raid non sfiguro con il dps.... finchè ho mana )

[Carpa]

Domanda:
ho Annhylde's Ring http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37192#comments

Vale la pena spendere circa 500 gold per sostituirlo con

Titanium Spellshock Ring http://www.wowhead.com/?item=42644

aggiungendo quindi 14 spellpower, perdendo 2 sta e sostituendo 49 haste con 42 crit?

(spec 57-3-11)

[Lilyth]

14 spellpower non sono pochi, di due punti stamina te ne fai poco. Per quanto riguarda l'haste sarebbe preferibile a crit rating con la tua specc, ma devi valutare un po tutto l'equip.

[Carpa]

Con arcane intellect su, le mie stat sono
1981 spellpower
263 hit
18.78% crit (+3% quando procca focus magic)
388 haste (11,83%)

(come equip 460.96 punti secondo Be Imba;
full T7, full epic tranne un trinket: Forge ember invece di quello da emblem Sundial of the Exiled [-11 crit])

[Lilyth]

Io andrei per il Titanium

[Carpa]

Grazie! Allora lo prendo; mi consigli anche di prendere i bracciali da 60 emblem Boe (io ho i Preceptor's Bindings)? e quanto dovrei pagarli? (lo so che l'economia varia da server a server, ma più o meno? visto che un sacco di gente li vende)

[Lilyth]

-5 hit +6 spellpower

Boh, il prezzo è relativo, se non sai cosa fare dei gold comprali, altrimenti per un upgrade cosi basso lascia perdere.

[Carpa]

Non so effettivamente cosa fare dei gold ^^ ma preferisco risparmiarli per sicurezza!

[falko76]

Ci sono notizie interessanti dal mondo dei maghi!

[Lilyth]

Ci sono notizie interessanti dal mondo dei maghi!

?!? hai deciso di rollarti un altra classe?


Se è per il buff al glifo dello scorch io sto ancora aspettando un nerf a qualcosaltro

[Chiccu]

Qualche mago terrà ancora il glifo dello scorch (che è stato pure buffato ) o tutti lo sostituiranno con quello di living bomb?!