[PS360] Street Fighter X Tekken

[Il Somax]

Io sono molto, molto più preoccupato per la controparte namco di questo crossover, francamente

[NEO-GEO]

Io sono molto, molto più preoccupato per la controparte namco di questo crossover, francamente

Gia nel suo concetto sto gioco è Fail!

[Gatsu80]

Non ti piace il personaggio o dici che non è forte?

Dice che non è forte ma si sbaglia

[Krizalid]

Non ti piace il personaggio o dici che non è forte?

la seconda

[Ronove]

o_o

[Ruka-san]

cammy al massimo è difficile da usare, dire che non è forte è assurdo

[Krizalid]

Street Fighter X Tekken

• Mentioning that this is a big hint, Yoshinori said that he's working on bringing back characters that didn't make the cut for Street Fighter 4 into Street Fighter X Tekken. You'll see some characters that you haven't seen in awhile.

• Ono added that if SFxT matches up with Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition's roster, which is 39 characters, that means about 15-20 fighters on each side, so SSF4's roster will have to be trimmed down a bit to keep the sides even. Yoshinori mentioned that if the roster gets beyond 40 fighters, it gets a bit difficult to memorize moves and stuff.

• Capcom is going to try and tone down the teasers in the future, because as many people have stated, they aren't really teasers trailers because they show who the fighters are.

• Capcom doesn't want to cut any features they had in SF4, they want to add on to it, not take away with SFxT. This was in response to if the game has a rivals mode, but it implies an overall approach as well.

• There's a "Cross Rush" system in place which is basically a Chain Combo setup going from Light 2x/Medium/Hard to do combos.

• The game won't have a really deep story mode like there is in Mortal Kombat 9, which Ono said they knocked out of the park, but you will see a story mode like you've seen in previous Capcom fighters. Yoshinori did say they're looking at doing something like the MK9 guys did in the future though, *wink* *wink*.

• "Big surprising announcements," for SFxT at Comic-Con commented Ono.

• They're trying to blend the art styles of SF4 and Tekken characters, using more saturated colors and thicker lines to try and find a balance.

• They want to see how the YouTube upload feature works for SF3 3s OE before they commit to putting it into Street Fighter X Tekken. They didn't say one way or the other whether this would be included or not.

• Capcom staff grabbed copies of Tekken 6 and has been studying them on how to add the Namco characters into SFxT. The Namco guys that have seen their characters in game have been happy with how they're being implemented.

• The "watery" graphic effect seen in the SFxT trailers will show up when doing things like Launchers and the Cross Rush, similar to the ink effect when doing a Focus Attack in SF4.

• Expect more news about the Vita version of SFxT at Comic-Con, especially for Cole from inFAMOUS.

Live Stream
Capcom-Unity
Wednesday:
11:30am - 12:00pm
Street Fighter 3rd Strike Online Edition, Super Street Fighter IV Arcade Edition with Vince Tran
2:00pm - 2:30pm
Street Fighter 3rd Strike Online Edition with Derek Neal
5:30pm - 6:00pm
Street Fighter x Tekken, Street Fighter 3rd Strike Online Edition with Seth Killian

Impressions
Via iPlayWinner

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Gameplay Details:

• SF x TK uses a 6 button configuration much like previous Street Fighter games. Short and Jab are throw, Medium Kick and Punch are Tag, and Fierce and Roundhouse is the universal launcher.

• Combos are executed as chain combos (known as the Cross Rush according to Yoshinori Ono) for both Street Fighter and Tekken characters, with Tekken characters retaining many of their combos from the Tekken series. For instance, Kazuya's 1,1,2 works similarly as to how it does in the Tekken series. That said, Street Fighter characters can still execute many of their same link combos from Street Fighter 4 as well.

• To start a launch combo, with most characters you will press something like Medium, Medium, Fierce, then tap Fierce again. Upon tapping Fierce a second time the game will cut to a quick launcher sequence and you will swap with the other character on your team. Works the same with Roundhouse.

• You can bring in your teammate faster during the launcher by pressing the Tag buttons. This costs meter but allows for a different set of combos as the opponent will be higher in the air as your character comes on screen.

• Launcher is unsafe on block, can tag in teammates even when it's blocked but you'll both be open to attack.

• You can charge one special move per character and release it at anytime for varying effects. If you charge it fully, they will perform a super that wont cost any meter.

• Many Tekken characters have some sort of "bound" or "launcher" special attack that allows them to extend combos. When used within in Tag combos, you have to save these bound mechanics/special moves for the end of the combo, and not the beginning. Otherwise, when you tag in your teammate they will be unable to follow up with an attack for some reason. Same seems to go for attacks that result in a wall bounce as well though this is unconfirmed.

• A few Street Fighter characters such as Ryu have wall bounce attacks as well.

• No comeback mechanics like X-Factor/Ultras.

•As of now, once one of your character dies, you will lose the round. The game wont automatically switch in your other teammate if they still have life like say Marvel vs Capcom 3. You have to manually alternate between your two characters often and juggle their health to stay alive.

• There is an "Alpha Counter" system where you can tag in your teammate while blocking. This isn't free though, as if you mistime it the opponent will be able to attack you. It seems like you have to wait for a string to end or an obvious gap to make this safe but it is still unconfirmed.

Character Impressions:

Ryu - Gains his Joudan (Donkey) Kick back from the SF3 series. Results in wallbounce (might be EX only)

Chun-Li - Lightning Legs and Fireball are now Quarter Circle motions.

Sagat - Retains his ability to Kara with both Forward + Light and Forward + Roundhouse.

Kazuya - Has a Wave Dash that allows him to pass through projectiles. Has a "Bound" special move that is performed with Quarter Circle back and Light Punch that allows him to extend combos.

Ryu - Gains his Joudan (Donkey) Kick back from the SF3 series. Results in wallbounce (might be EX only)

Chun-Li - Lightning Legs and Fireball are now Quarter Circle motions.

Sagat - Retains his ability to Kara with both Forward + Light and Forward + Roundhouse.

Kazuya - Has a Wave Dash that allows him to pass through projectiles. Has a "Bound" special move that is performed with Quarter Circle back and Light Punch that allows him to extend combos.


Wakeup Shoryuken at E3 Day One Imperssions

Via SRK

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SFxT looks really nice. The facial models and animations have all been redone from SF4, and the Tekken characters look really great so far. They have a lot of character and personality in their moves. The backgrounds are pretty busy, and between rounds, characters have transition animations in which they move to another part of the stage.

When getting your hands on the game, the first thing you’d probably say is that it feels somewhere between Marvel and Street Fighter. Chain combos are super easy, and some of the moves are even more over-the-top than usual. You can cancel most chain combos into special moves as long as you do it before you reach a heavy attack. If you use a heavy attack twice at the end of a chain, it causes you to perform your tag-launcher. This puts your opponent into the air and forces you to tag.

The game ends when one character is KO’ed, but the coloring on the health bars makes it hard to notice when you are near death sometimes. Everything juggles in most cases. You can do chain combos in the air, land, and continue the combo. Throws work just like Street Fighter 4, but most of them have pitiful range by comparison.

Tagging is performed with Medium Punch + Medium Kick. While doing so, it is possible to have two of your characters get hit at the same time. You can use MP+MK like a focus cancel to cause a tag cancel. Doing so lets your new character move freely while the exiting character finishes his move.

For instance, forcing someone to block Ken’s Heavy Hurricane Kick, and then tag canceling it right away, lets you perform mix-ups behind the cover of the Hurricane Kick. This can be pretty scary. I tried the technique later with a blocked Hurricane Kick from Hwoarang. The kicker (ha ha) is that the final hit of Hwoarang’s special is an overhead. Performing a low attack while this goes off results in a Marvel-style unblockable.

The game seems to use gravity scaling to prevent super long combos. Gone are double motions for Supers. Instead, you typically do a single motion with three punches or kicks to perform one. They animate like Ultras, but can be cancelled into from normals and chain combos.

When you get knocked down, you can tag while you are on the ground. This technique, while unsafe, did seem really useful in a lot of situations in which sacrificing some health on your 2nd character could prevent the match from ending early. You can even tag cancel in the air.

We are going to get more time with the game tomorrow, and we’ll talk more about character specifics then. Early on, I have to say that the Tekken characters are all extremely complex and super interesting, while the Street Fighter characters seem really straightforward and simple.

My early favorites are Nina, Julia, Ken, Bob, and Hwoarang. King seems really complicated, and though I wasn’t doing well with him, UltraDavid was starting to find ways in which Marduk might be really scary. Ski’s early favorites were Ryu and Kazuya.

[NEO-GEO]

lettoniente!

Comunque la versione Capcom sembra sopportabile e non voglio neppure vedere i filmati della versione Namco!

A questo punto non so neanche se lo prendo, mi piacerebbe avere tutti i picchiaduro ma ultimamente iniziano ad essere un po' troppi, gia devo recuperare blazblue e Mortal Kombat, poi con l'uscita di Third Strike online, King of Fighters XIII e Skull Girl...

[CX3200]

ling xiaoyu vs M bisone

[Krizalid]

Dicono ci saranno dei pg che in SF4 non c'erano, magari Alex o Uriel

[King Odoacre]

Credo che comprerò anche questo, ma preferirei avessero annunciato qualcosa su Tekken X Street Fighter.

[Nanatsusaya]

L'idea è buona ma è davvero troppo simile a SF4 e i personaggi da entrambe le parti (soprattutto la parte sf) non giustifica l'acquisto se si ha intenzione di comprare SSF4ae secondo me.

[Krizalid]

per il mio portafogli lo giustifica eccome

[King Odoacre]

Hanno fatto il cross-over tra le due serie di picchiaduro più famose attualmente, ma io avrei sempre voluto vedere un Tekken VS Virtua Fighter, così da rendere più frontale lo scontro tra le due scuole picchiaduriste 3D opposte (come è accaduto in SNK VS Capcom per il 2D).
A questo punto mi aspetto un King of Fighter VS Virtua Fighter e poi il mega brawl finale: KoF VS Tekken VS Street Fighter VS Virtua Fighter!

[AlexARandom]

L'idea è buona ma è davvero troppo simile a SF4 e i personaggi da entrambe le parti (soprattutto la parte sf) non giustifica l'acquisto se si ha intenzione di comprare SSF4ae secondo me.

Tanto esce nel 2012 e si rivolge alle masse, come fece il primo SFIV.
SSFIV AE invece si rivolge agli appassionati della saga, quelli che non solo hanno comprato SFIV al Day1 per l'hype, ma hanno comprato anche SSFIV e continuano a giocarci fino a oggi.
L'AE è un titolo rivolto a tutta la fan-base che si è formata dietro la serie IV (e ai giocatori di SF da sempre).

Questo è un titolo "nuovo" che cercano di vendere a tutti, pure a quelli che hanno comprato SFIV ma non le 2 versioni successive, ma soprattutto ai fan di Tekken, dei picchiaduro in genere, ecc.

Nell'aspetto è simile alla serie IV, ma solo graficamente... le meccaniche di gioco sono una via di mezzo fra Marvel vs Capcom e SFIV...

[Nanatsusaya]

beh ripeto, l'idea e' fica e mi attizza molto, se esce molto dopo ssf4ae sicuro lo prendo, pero' i pg di sf mi sembrano troppo riciclati, tutto qui.
dovevano mettere piu' personaggi "inediti" secondo me.
Le meccaniche a prima vista mi sembrano le stesse di Sf4.

[samael77]

beh ripeto, l'idea e' fica e mi attizza molto, se esce molto dopo ssf4ae sicuro lo prendo, pero' i pg di sf mi sembrano troppo riciclati, tutto qui.
dovevano mettere piu' personaggi "inediti" secondo me.
Le meccaniche a prima vista mi sembrano le stesse di Sf4.

guarda che ssf4ae è uscito una settimana fa...

[AlexARandom]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zjOHTsW3g4

[Dan Hero]

continua a non essere male per nulla, sembra l'anello mancante tra sf4 e un circo estremo tipo MvsC.

[King Odoacre]

Da questo ultimo filmato mi sembra che abbiano migliorato molto la grafica rispetto al "reveal trailer", specialmente per i lottatori Namco. Devo prendermi un arcade stick per 360.

[Ruka-san]

continua a non essere male per nulla, sembra l'anello mancante tra sf4 e un circo estremo tipo MvsC.

io sono molto dubbioso

non conosco tekken, ho giocato poco a tekken 2 in sala giochi

giusto qualche mezza partita a tekken tag

ripeto non lo conosco e dai video non riesco a evincere l'impatto di tekken nel motore di sf4 a livello di gameplay

insomma mi aspetterei che sia un esperienza di gioco diversa almeno in parte da sf4, ma

ho paura che alla fine sia solo un ssf4 con pg extra
ho paura che i pg di tekken siano cloni puri di pg di sf4
ho paura che la gente (me compreso) non trovi giustificazioni nell'usare i pg di tekken e quindi tanto vale che gioco a sf4



di sicuro se dovessi prenderlo sarà solo dopo corposi vostri hands on

[King Odoacre]

ripeto non lo conosco e dai video non riesco a evincere l'impatto di tekken nel motore di sf4 a livello di gameplay

Ah, non ti preoccupare, dal punto di vista del gameplay se Tekken lo fa Capcom in 2D non può altro che migliorare...

[Ruka-san]

dimenticavo, ma i dinosauri intervengono mangiandosi un pg a caso vero??

gli sfondi sembrano dannatamente belli però




una domanda seria

ma tekken vs street fighter esce in contemporanea? o quanto dopo?

per cui così ovviamente valgono gli stessi dubbi da me espressi per SFvsT

[King Odoacre]

ma tekken vs street fighter esce in contemporanea? o quanto dopo?

Namco dice un anno, ma dal momento che non si è visto niente all'E3 immagino faccia a tempo ad uscire il nuovo Tekken che hanno fatto vedere.

[Ronove]

ho paura che alla fine sia solo un ssf4 con pg extra
ho paura che i pg di tekken siano cloni puri di pg di sf4
ho paura che la gente (me compreso) non trovi giustificazioni nell'usare i pg di tekken e quindi tanto vale che gioco a sf4

Il filmato che Alex ha linkato qua sopra sulla carta già dovrebbe chiarire alcune delle tue paure e smentirle. Come ha detto Dan, sembra l'anello mancante tra SF4 e "circhi" alla MvC.

E come ha detto nel video il tizio che ha commentato le nuove meccaniche, è esattamente la tipologia di titolo che speravo fosse diventata SSF4. Io sono molto interessato a come questo gioco si sta potenzialmente sviluppando (e lo sapete quanto sia stato ipercritico nei confronti di SF4).